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Post by mulv on Jun 12, 2023 22:20:58 GMT
Isn't it odd how closed-down psychiatric hospitals live on in general folklore?
They've saved you a bed in Rubery (Brum), Coney Hill (Gloucester), the big house in Denbigh (North Wales) or Shelton (Shrewsbury) are phrases I've heard or used myself, despite these places having been closed down many years ago.
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Post by Su on Jun 13, 2023 0:08:04 GMT
I donβt think I have ever used any of those phrases
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Post by will on Jun 13, 2023 7:54:07 GMT
Isn't it odd how closed-down psychiatric hospitals live on in general folklore? They've saved you a bed in Rubery (Brum), Coney Hill (Gloucester), the big house in Denbigh (North Wales) or Shelton (Shrewsbury) are phrases I've heard or used myself, despite these places having been closed down many years ago. The one in Rubery was just down the road from us - I believe the building is still there, but I might be wrong on that. When I was at school I'm ashamed to say that the insult "Monny" was in frequent usage. This referred to Monyhull Hall hospital near the Cartland Arms, between Kings Norton and Kings Heath. This was a bit more than a psychiatric hospital, as it housed people with the severest of mental illnesses. My grandma had a child late in life who was completely mentally handicapped - couldn't talk, was deaf, completely bald and in no way in control of his body. Nan and Georgie lived next door to us, and we had an open gateway between the two houses. I was used Georgie as he was around for much of my childhood before he became too much for my nan and my mum and he ended up in Monyhull. So he didn't scare me, but he used to nick my sandwiches when I was gawping at the telly instead of getting on with eating. But he terrified my mates when they came round my house, and I can fully understand why. Anyway, at school anyone who who acted foolishly or said something stupid would have "Monny" shouted at them. But I never heard the phrases which Mulv mentions.
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Post by mulv on Jun 13, 2023 18:42:08 GMT
Blimey, I'd forgotten about Monyhull.
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Post by anglais on Jun 14, 2023 2:46:08 GMT
We used to refer to Rubery a lot when we were kids. Also Hatton Lumatic asylum on the outskirts of Warwick; It was demolished about 30 years ago and posh houses built on the site.
Chrissies Mom was a cook at Coleshill Hall Hospital. The patients used to set off the fire alarms regularly to see the fire engines race to the scene. We lived across the road from the fire station and several of our neighbours were volunteer firemen and were always being called out. It was the easiest money they ever made.
On a more serious note though, Chrissies Mom drove a Talbot Samba and the patients smashed it up and wrote it off for "something to do". Not by driving it but by hurling big stones from the gardens at it.
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Post by mulv on Jun 14, 2023 5:04:02 GMT
I'm not surprised the fire brigade (as they would have been called them) raced to the hospital. At Shelton Hospital in Shrewsbury there was a fire in 1968 and twenty four patients in a secure ward died. My ex worked at Shelton for a time and there was a memorial in the main entrance.
As for Chrissie's mom's Talbot Samba, smashing it up was probably the best thing that could happen to it.
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Post by anglais on Jun 14, 2023 5:23:17 GMT
That Samba was awful. I had to drive it once, I forget why. It had all dangly things hanging from the rear view mirror, teddy bears on the parcel shelf that slid about when you turned a corner, and round green velour pleated cushions on the rear seat.
I have never been so embarrassed in my life driving a car.
She replaced it with a Chrysler Horizon which was better, marginally. That was written off too. Chrissies little brother, aged 16, "borrowed" it put it in a ditch then reported it as stolen to the police.
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Post by mulv on Jun 14, 2023 6:34:14 GMT
I'm surprised he got it to the end of the road before the rust made it fall apart. In an age of rusty cars, Talbots and Chryslers were kings
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Post by anglais on Jun 14, 2023 7:06:41 GMT
It must have run in the family. Chrissies older brother Peter had a Chrysler Alpine which was bloody quick for the time.
When young David finally passed his test his Mom bought him another Horizon.
Both rusted away at an alarming rate.
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Post by tom on Jun 14, 2023 11:36:04 GMT
My only experience of a fuuny farm was Highcroft Hall in Erdington.
When I was at Warley College of Technology, I got involved with the college cricket team and we were invited to play against the staff of said hospital. We duly arrived at the main entrance and we were met by a chap with a clipboard..." Cricket team" he said, "follow me". So we trotted behind him and we were given a guided tour of said hospital. We ended up back at reception, where the real receptionist took over. This guy was apparently an inmate and was known to kidnap visitors.
When we got our kit on in the sports pavillion, we went out side to a Wembley type reception...the inmates had turned out to watch and clearly they were not on the side of the staff. There was every type of football chant being sung with gusto and every run we scored or wicket we took was greeted with mass cheering, for the life of me I cant remember the result, but it really didn't matter.
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Post by will on Jun 14, 2023 12:28:29 GMT
My weirdest experience of playing cricket was when I was about 18 and playing for Alvechurch 3rd XI, i.e. not a very high level. We were asked to play a "friendly" match against the inmates of HMP Hewell Grange, a juvenile "facility" between Bromsgrove and Redditch.
Obvs it was an away game (think "Porridge the Movie"!) and the member of staff who looked after us told us to make sure that once we were changed we took everything we needed out with us because the changing room would be locked, again "for obvious reasons"!
Anyway, luckily we won the toss and batted first, otherwise the game would have been over in about an hour. Our batsmen enjoyed themselves, although the opposition had a couple of very swift West Indian bowlers, and they fielded with enormous energy and enthusiasm.
When they came to bat me and my opening partner mopped up 9 wickets (there was a run out as well) and I think my figures were something like 4 wickets for 5 runs, and they were dismissed for 21. The match was done and dusted shortly after 5pm and I was back in the pub around 7.
I don't think we played them again.
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Post by tom on Jun 14, 2023 15:10:13 GMT
As we have swiftly moved on to cricket.
I once faced a trainee doctor, who played for the Q.E. training school/univercity.
We bowled first and got hamered, there was this player on the opposition side, a caribean gent, locked pretty useful as a batsman...When we went out to bat, as keeper, I generally batted 6 or 7, after the first over I found myself promoted to 4. This opposition batsman was a better bowler. We survived the second over and I found myself facing this threat to my life. His first ball missed me and the stumps I think, I'm pretty sure I had my eyes closed. As I didn't have a box, I made sure the bat was going to be between the balls, having negotiated his first ball, I convinced myself that if I got bat to ball I would at least score something. The ball was bowled and I heard the stumps collapse, I truly did not see the ball. A few years later a mate of mine phoned me to say this bloke was in the Windies squad, about to tour England, not sure whether he played as at the time the Windies had a fearsome bowling attack. But I can fully understand why he was at least back up.
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Post by Karoline on Jun 15, 2023 21:27:25 GMT
Isn't it odd how closed-down psychiatric hospitals live on in general folklore? They've saved you a bed in Rubery (Brum), Coney Hill (Gloucester), the big house in Denbigh (North Wales) or Shelton (Shrewsbury) are phrases I've heard or used myself, despite these places having been closed down many years ago. Napsbury - Barnet Leavesden - Watford
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Post by tom on Jun 16, 2023 7:46:33 GMT
Isn't it odd how closed-down psychiatric hospitals live on in general folklore? They've saved you a bed in Rubery (Brum), Coney Hill (Gloucester), the big house in Denbigh (North Wales) or Shelton (Shrewsbury) are phrases I've heard or used myself, despite these places having been closed down many years ago. Napsbury - Barnet Leavesden - Watford Westminster.
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Post by mulv on Jun 16, 2023 8:30:34 GMT
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