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Post by tom on Oct 7, 2022 16:40:59 GMT
Whilst getting my hair chopped today, I was asked, by a youngish Villa fan, was TF as good as his legend.
I answered IMO yes, I told this lad he was truly two footed and feared no one, even though he was quite slight of build, he made a fool of two of the best defenders, Frank McClintock and Emlyn Hughes.
This lad made an interesting point...Bellingham and TF broke into the Blues team at similar ages, Francis stayed at the Blues whilst Bellingham moved.
Should Francis have made the move earlier and to a bigger team than Forest?
I said most likely Yes, but I was glad he didn't.
Come on you older ones, what do you think?
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Post by will on Oct 7, 2022 16:52:16 GMT
Whilst getting my hair chopped today, I was asked, by a youngish Villa fan, was TF as good as his legend. I answered IMO yes, I told this lad he was truly two footed and feared no one, even though he was quite slight of build, he made a fool of two of the best defenders, Frank McClintock and Emlyn Hughes. This lad made an interesting point...Bellingham and TF broke into the Blues team at similar ages, Francis stayed at the Blues whilst Bellingham moved. Should Francis have made the move earlier and to a bigger team than Forest? I said most likely Yes, but I was glad he didn't. Come on you older ones, what do you think? Different times unfortunately - there was more loyalty in Trev's days. Mind you, if we'd been a middle of the table top-level team three years ago (like we were occasionally in the 70s) Jude would probably have stayed a bit longer. But he couldn't be expected to waste his time in the nether reaches of the Championship. Plus there's no way any club, English nor Foreign, would have forked out £1m for a 17 year old in the 70s. Blues (or rather the incompetent criminals who run the club) couldn't afford to turn down whatever it was that Dortmund were willing to pay for Jude. Trev should probably have moved on after the Maine Road disaster - it's incredible to think that he stayed on and played every single game (including Texaco Cup or Anglo-Scottish Cup) two years running. Like I say, different times. |
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Post by tom on Oct 7, 2022 16:55:25 GMT
When he broke into the Blues team, we were in the nether reaches, but altogether in a much better position than the current set up.
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Post by will on Oct 7, 2022 17:28:14 GMT
When he broke into the Blues team, we were in the nether reaches, but altogether in a much better position than the current set up. Yeah, but by the end of his first season we were near the top thanks to him, and the next season we went up partially thanks to him. |
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Post by Karoline on Oct 7, 2022 20:14:24 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong but years ago if a player moved abroad they couldn’t play for their county & they changed it when Keegan & others went abroad
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Post by will on Oct 7, 2022 21:00:27 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong but years ago if a player moved abroad they couldn’t play for their county & they changed it when Keegan & others went abroad That's the case now with English and French rugby players. I don't remember it in football, but that doesn't mean it's not true. I just thought that English players didn't go abroad because we were always being told that the English League was the greatest in the World. That and the fact that English people in general, and English footballers in particular couldn't/can't be arsed to learn to speak foreign languages. |
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Post by anglais on Oct 7, 2022 22:24:27 GMT
"That and the fact that English people in general, and English footballers in particular couldn't/can't be arsed to learn to speak foreign languages."
I could be offended by that........ .......but I'm not...... 
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Post by anglais on Oct 7, 2022 22:44:41 GMT
One of the funniest things I ever saw concerning TF was much feared "hard man" Harry Cripps of Milwall trying to kick chunks out of him. Trev pulled him all over the park, Harry could not get within two yards of him.
He eventually caught up with Trev when he received a throw on the half way line in front of the Kop. Trev got absolutely clattered from behind, did a double spin in mid air, got up, smiled at Harry and carried on. Harry was incensed and raged at the ref for the rest of the game, and after in the press too. It was a total humiliation
Trev was a tough little kid. You had to be in those days to survive.
Just take a look at old footage of George Best and the kickings he used to get.
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Post by Su on Oct 8, 2022 7:18:02 GMT
Not unlike Gresy today except he rolls around on the floor every time 😠
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