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Post by mulv on May 18, 2023 6:14:00 GMT
Coventry v Luton is the most distasteful of the playoff final choices for me.
By a stretch I can just about imagine Coventry in the Premiership - they were in Div 1 with us in the eighties.
There is no way I can contemplate Luton, with their tiny backstreet ground and their horrible racist fans being in the top division of English football. It's just wrong.
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Post by tom on May 18, 2023 7:38:19 GMT
I cant disagree with what you said about the attitude of much of the population of the town of Luton. But you cannot blame the football club for this.
As you say Kenilworth Road is a bit bit of a pokey stadium and shouldn't be in the Premier division.
As for Coventry, they have a suitable stadium and their fans have had a lot to put up with for quite a few years. We think we have had it bad from the ownership point of view, but Cov have had it a lot worse.
I think above comments show where my feelings lie.
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Post by mulv on May 18, 2023 8:54:13 GMT
I absolutely agree that you can't blame the club for the attitude of a lot of the town - or even if the fans. Blues have got some horrible fans, as has every club.
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Post by will on May 18, 2023 9:04:27 GMT
I'll be completely honest, I hate the play-offs. This is down to several reasons: 1. If you can't sort out who deserves to be promoted after 46 games then there's something very badly wrong with your league system.* 2. I have so many bad memories of the play-offs during the late 90s and early noughties that I hope the Blues never, ever have to go through them again. 3. They are a construct of the evil empire that is Sky, which, IN MY OPINION, has ruined football and cricket in this country. *I am aware that we would not have been promoted in 2002, and that I would not have witnessed one of the greatest days in Blues' history, and that I'm therefore opening myself up to a charge of hypocrisy, but I don't care - the play-offs are fundamentally unfair, and in a sport where millions are spent on a VAR system which purports to eliminate human error and promote fairness it seems bizarre that the people who benefit most of all from the play-offs are a broadcasting company. So, to answer the original question, and to quote Jim Royle, I don't give a shiny shite who gets promoted via the play-offs, this season or any other (except of course, when Blues are involved  ). |
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Post by will on May 18, 2023 9:07:07 GMT
I absolutely agree that you can't blame the club for the attitude of a lot of the town - or even if the fans. Blues have got some horrible fans, as has every club. Ain't that the truth? You only have to read any other Blues forum or Facebook group that's ever existed, apart from our little forums and, perhaps, SHA, to know how many awful excuses for human beings support our club. |
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Post by tom on May 18, 2023 9:29:53 GMT
There was a survey done amongst fotballers, most said that winning promotion through the play off was the best way to get promoted.
I would guess that owners would say much the same...they make a fair bit of dosh that way.
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Post by will on May 18, 2023 9:41:34 GMT
There was a survey done amongst fotballers, most said that winning promotion through the play off was the best way to get promoted. I would guess that owners would say much the same...they make a fair bit of dosh that way. I would guess that most of the players who voted in favour played for teams that had finished fourth, fifth or sixth prior to winning the play-offs. I would also guess that the owners of teams who finished third and failed to achieve promotion would see the money earned through the play-offs was very poor compensation for not getting promoted, even if they were to end up coming straight back down again. |
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Post by mulv on May 18, 2023 14:17:44 GMT
Notts County made it back into the Football League this year via the playoffs, and were very pleased to have done so. However, it took them until the very end of extra time against a team who finished with THIRTY FIVE FEWER POINTS to get to the final, and then extra time and penalties against a team that finished with TWENTY THREE FEWER POINTS.
In any sensible league they would have gone up automatically, and my heart would have ached for them had they not gone up this year. I think this was the third or fourth time in a row they'd been in the playoffs.
I can see that it extends the interest in the season for a lot of clubs - the thought of making the playoffs keeps clubs (and fans) eager when their final few matches might otherwise have been dead rubbers, but I agree with Will - playoffs are wrong.
Football leagues are just that - leagues. To reduce promotion to what is essentially a knockout cup competition seems ridiculous (and yes, I'm a hypocrite as well 😁).
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Post by tom on May 18, 2023 15:00:08 GMT
Rugby Union have a play off, so you get the League winner and the play off winner.
Check with Will as to how that sorts itself out.
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Post by will on May 19, 2023 7:03:22 GMT
Rugby Union have a play off, so you get the League winner and the play off winner. Check with Will as to how that sorts itself out. Top 4 in the league play off in the semis: 1st at home to 4th, 2nd at home to 3rd - one game only. Winners go to Twickers for the Final 2016 Chiefs finished 2nd, lost the final - runners-up 2017 finished 2nd but won the Final - Champions 2018 finished 1st, lost final - runners-up 2019 ditto 2018 2020 finished 1st, won final - Champions 2021 ditto 2016 In short they were league winners three times but Champions twice. Plus, of course, in at least two of the seasons when the Chiefs were runners-up, despite finishing first in the league, the cheating scumbags of Saracens were the Champions, and the RFU and the Premiership have never had the guts to strip them of their illegally won titles. |
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